RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents

["Gerry Iles" <GerryI@xxxxxxxx>]

The non-wrapping text on a curve can actually be quite useful as the
text that overflows the ends of the curve keeps following the direction
of the curve.  Also, there is the issue of backwards compatibility.  I
certainly have test files that rely on this behaviour and there must be
quite a few files in the wild that do too.

I think a much more useful feature would be a way to toggle a story
between wrapping and non-wrapping (regardless of whether it is on a
curve).  At present you have to create a new story and copy the content
across.

Gerry

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Charles Moir
Sent: 05 July 2006 12:04
To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents

I class this as a design bug. There is no way the behaviour should be
different depending on how the text on the line was created.

And just clicking and typing on the line is normal way of creating a
non-wrapping text story, so this is just incredibly inconsistent (and
would also explain a lot of customer support hassle we get on this
feature)

It's all tied up with your new margin stuff I guess Martin, which is why
you're asking I presume.

For consistency are you thinking of showing margins on the ruler for
text on a curve just as you do for normal text?

Either way I'd like this behaviour changed. Selecting 'fit text to
curve' should be creating a wrapping story, just as it does if you type
text on a curve. The margin handles should be visible at all times.

Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Iles
> Sent: 05 July 2006 11:57
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> 
> It actually depends on whether the text story is wrapping.  
> E.g. if you create a wrapping story by dragging the baseline 
> and then typing lots of text, when you fit it to a curve you 
> do get the indent blobs.
> 
> Basically, the indent blobs on the path correspond with the 
> end blobs on the baseline of a wrapping text story...
> 
> Gerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
> Sent: 05 July 2006 11:48
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> 
> In message 
> <5056CBC646CB4047BB26120F4377DB71D71BEE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >
>           "Gerry Iles" <GerryI@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > There was a recent thread in the main Xtreme forum where 
> someone else 
> > was having problems seeing these so there may be a bug that 
> only some 
> > people see:
> > 
> > http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=21878
> 
> Ah, now I see - the handles only show up when you *type* text 
> on a curve. Up to now, I only used the "Fit text to curve" 
> menu entry. 
> Surely, text on curve created that way should display the 
> handles, too? The end result of either creation method should 
> be the same.
> 
> Martin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
> > Sent: 05 July 2006 11:04
> > To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> > 
> > I cannot find these handles in my version of Xtreme (2.0f). 
> How do I 
> > get them to display? I do not see them when selecting the Text Tool 
> > nor when using the Selector. Was it introduced in a later 
> version? Can 
> > you send me a small example file with indents applied please?
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > In message 
> <5056CBC646CB4047BB26120F4377DB719BA754@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >           "Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >> In Xtreme there is a small red handle at the insertion 
> point (usually 
> >> the left of the text), and you can drag that along the 
> line to adjust 
> >> the left indent.
> >> 
> >> Similarly there should be a red handle on the end of the line that
> can
> >> be dragged inwards to move the right margin in.
> >> 
> >> Charles
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
> >>> Sent: 04 July 2006 16:19
> >>> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> >>> 
> >>> I see from the code that text on a path can have a left and right 
> >>> indent, but I cannot find how I can change that indent in 
> a drawing.
> >>> Is there any user interface for this in XaraLX? Maybe in Xtreme?
> >>> 
> >>> Martin
>