RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Re: Popup slider

["Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx>]

Ah OK. I didn't check the original spec. Sorry about that.  Interesting
that you find that behaviour annoying, because I find the current
behaviour mildly annoying - that it goes away too easily.  I guess I
need to play with it the other way to find out.

Perhaps a half way house is that it stays up if the pointer remains over
it. So you still get the ability to drag and release - see whether you
like it or not, drag some more, without having the hold the mouse down
all the time.  Would that be easy?

Having said all that I tend to use these things the Mac way -
click-drag-release, as that's fewest clicks.

Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
> Sent: 25 July 2006 09:16
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Alex Bligh
> Subject: Re: [XaraXtreme-dev] Re: Popup slider
> 
> Charles,
> 
> > - It's neither working Windows-like or Mac-like right now. Windows 
> > like would be click-release to make it appear and it would 
> then stay 
> > on screen until you did some other operation. i.e. it would not 
> > disappear when you have finished dragging as it does now. 
> This is how 
> > Adobe sliders work and so if we're going to do this style we really 
> > need to work like theirs (it's what all Adobe users will be 
> used to). 
> > This has a few advantages actually - it stays on screen so you can 
> > keep adjusting the values without it disappearing. It's 
> only when you 
> > click elsewhere that makes it go away.
> 
> Hmmm.... It originally did that, but when I was checking it 
> against the spec I read this (from the web site):
> 
>  > The Windows-like way: The user clicks and releases the 
> button, in  > which case the pop-up should appear and remain 
> on screen until they  > either click again outside the bounds 
> of the slider window, or have  > clicked and selected a value 
> from the slider (i.e. on mouse-up on the  > actual slider). 
> in other words they can do a click-release to make the  > 
> slider appear, and now do a click-drag-release to select a 
> value, at  > which point the pop-up disappears.
>  >
>  > (Worth noting this is not how sliders behave in Adobe Illustrator.
>  > They stay up until the next click outside the window, so 
> they are  > rather more menu like to be honest, but then they 
> keep the menu up  > even after a click on the slider. It only 
> goes away with the first  > click outside the slider, so 
> that's not menu-like at all.)
> 
> It's a one line change to fix the behaviour, but personally I 
> like your original idea best.
> 
> The trouble is the thing sticks around. Note even with the 
> current behaviour you can keep adjusting without things 
> disappearing - just keep the mouse button down. Adobe doesn't 
> benefit from this because it (presumably) doesn't update in real time.
> 
> I'll comment out the relevant bit of code and I'm betting you 
> will want it to revert to previous (far less annoying) behaviour.
> 
> Alex
>