RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Substituted fonts and Bug 1057

["Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx>]

Does it error when opening blank template documents? If not, then this
behaviour is fine a good enough for 0.5.

In fact this behaviour is fine anyway. It shows it's trying to use Arial
and that it's missing. It doesn't matter what fonts it uses instead as
people will understand it could be anything (even on Windows when you
don't have the font the substitution is usually crap). Nor do I think
they even need to know what font is being used instead. They should go
and select another real font from the list if they want to use a real
font.

Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
> Sent: 23 May 2006 13:14
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Substituted fonts and Bug 1057
> 
> In message 
> <5056CBC646CB4047BB26120F4377DB719BA4A0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >
>           "Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure of the current behaviour actually. Works fine 
> for me, but 
> > I have Arial installed.
> > 
> > Is this too painful for others, who do not have Arial installed) on 
> > the current 0.5 RC ?
> 
> It just looks odd because on a system without Arial installed 
> the font displayed when you first switch to the text tool is 
> "?? Arial (missing)" while all the text you type is displayed 
> in whatever font the system substitutes for Arial, which, on 
> a default setup, does not necessarily look anything like 
> Arial. The user has no way of finding out which font is 
> actually used for rendering to substitute the missing Arial font.
> 
> In case the default system substitution is not a 
> Helvetica-like font (and unfortunately, on something as 
> common as a vanilla SUSE setup, it is not), then this means 
> that users create documents with text set in "Arial" that was 
> created using a font that had completely different metrics. 
> On such a system it would probably be better if any other 
> "real" font was used instead.
> 
> If we changed the default font to whatever "sans-serif" 
> resolves to, you can still get "Arial" if you have it 
> installed and you have configured it to be your preferred 
> "sans-serif" font, but others could get other fonts.
> 
> Actually, if you think it should be Arial in preference to 
> other fonts we could even check whether Arial is installed 
> and, if so, use it and if not, resolve "sans-serif" and use 
> whatever font it is mapped to.
> 
> Martin
> 
>