RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Substituted fonts and Bug 1057

["Neil Howe" <NeilH@xxxxxxxx>]

No, you don't get any errors. So, leave this for now please Martin.
We'll release 0.5 as it is and will continue to discuss this issue
afterwards to agree  the best way to improve it.

Thanks

Neil 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Moir
> Sent: 23 May 2006 14:10
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Substituted fonts and Bug 1057
> 
> Does it error when opening blank template documents? If not, 
> then this behaviour is fine a good enough for 0.5.
> 
> In fact this behaviour is fine anyway. It shows it's trying 
> to use Arial and that it's missing. It doesn't matter what 
> fonts it uses instead as people will understand it could be 
> anything (even on Windows when you don't have the font the 
> substitution is usually crap). Nor do I think they even need 
> to know what font is being used instead. They should go and 
> select another real font from the list if they want to use a 
> real font.
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
> > Sent: 23 May 2006 13:14
> > To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Substituted fonts and Bug 1057
> > 
> > In message
> > <5056CBC646CB4047BB26120F4377DB719BA4A0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> >           "Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not sure of the current behaviour actually. Works fine
> > for me, but
> > > I have Arial installed.
> > > 
> > > Is this too painful for others, who do not have Arial 
> installed) on 
> > > the current 0.5 RC ?
> > 
> > It just looks odd because on a system without Arial 
> installed the font 
> > displayed when you first switch to the text tool is "?? Arial 
> > (missing)" while all the text you type is displayed in 
> whatever font 
> > the system substitutes for Arial, which, on a default 
> setup, does not 
> > necessarily look anything like Arial. The user has no way 
> of finding 
> > out which font is actually used for rendering to substitute the 
> > missing Arial font.
> > 
> > In case the default system substitution is not a 
> Helvetica-like font 
> > (and unfortunately, on something as common as a vanilla 
> SUSE setup, it 
> > is not), then this means that users create documents with 
> text set in 
> > "Arial" that was created using a font that had completely different 
> > metrics.
> > On such a system it would probably be better if any other 
> "real" font 
> > was used instead.
> > 
> > If we changed the default font to whatever "sans-serif" 
> > resolves to, you can still get "Arial" if you have it installed and 
> > you have configured it to be your preferred "sans-serif" font, but 
> > others could get other fonts.
> > 
> > Actually, if you think it should be Arial in preference to 
> other fonts 
> > we could even check whether Arial is installed and, if so, 
> use it and 
> > if not, resolve "sans-serif" and use whatever font it is mapped to.
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
>