RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Printing

["Phil Martin" <Phil@xxxxxxxx>]

Alex,

If we dynamically link to libgnomeprintui what does the user see when
wxWidgets has been built --with-gnome-print but libgnomeprintui is not
present?

FYI: The tweaks to the gnomeprintui dialog I had in mind were quite
simple:
* Hide the "Jobs" tab
* Hide the "Print Preview" button
* Change the "Print" button to "OK"
* Change the dialog title
Quite simple - not too cute.

If/when GDK/GTK printing arrives it might still be advantageous for us
to use our own print dialog for all the reasons I cited before.

Phil 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
> Sent: 20 June 2006 16:12
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Alex Bligh
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Printing
> 
> Phil,
> 
> I think we are pretty limited with what we can do with 
> libgnomeprintui and note that it may not be available (at 
> runtime). It has a whole host of binary-bloating dependencies 
> so I would not recommend static linking (which would in any 
> case require a substantial wxWidgets change).
> 
> Personally I think we should avoid getting cute re the print 
> dialog until the gtk stuff is around - build on solid 
> foundations, etc.
> 
> Alex
> 
> --On 20 June 2006 09:30 +0100 Phil Martin <Phil@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > As I remember it the Windows Print dialog was designed with these 
> > things in mind:
> > * At the time screen space was much less than today so it 
> was designed 
> > to be compact.
> > * Present the user with just the most common variables, 
> summarise the 
> > remaining state and provide means of changing that state through 
> > satellite dialogs.
> > * We were unable to customise the standard Windows Print 
> dialog to do 
> > these things so we created our own.
> >
> > With some tweaks, the gnomeprintui dialog could serve as a "Print 
> > Settings" dialog for a revised version of Camelot's existing Print 
> > dialog. That would have the following advantages:
> > * It's close to the current Windows print UI design.
> > * It remains constant across platforms because the main 
> Print dialog 
> > is our dialog not a library's.
> > * It summarises numerous settings rather than presenting 
> them all to 
> > the user at once.
> > * It's easy for us to configure the Print dialog design 
> exactly how we 
> > want.
> > * It could be made acceptable to Mac users.
> >
> > If we use gnomeprintui as is, then I suggest we would want the 
> > gnomeprintui dialog to default to showing the "Job" tab. 
> It's a shame 
> > that the user would have to look at the other tabs to check 
> that their 
> > settings are OK - there's no summary. The layout of the 
> "Job" tab is 
> > horrible and ideally we should tweak it - and we may need 
> to add more 
> > controls.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
> >> Sent: 19 June 2006 18:22
> >> To: xara-dev
> >> Cc: Alex Bligh
> >> Subject: [XaraXtreme-dev] Printing
> >>
> >> I have jotted down some of my initial thoughts about 
> printing and the 
> >> printing UI here:
> >> http://www.xaraxtreme.org/developers/documentation/xaralx_prin
> >> ting_alternatives.html
> >>
> >> I would appreciate some feedback, particularly on the UI 
> bits, and on 
> >> the area of when Postscript printing needs to use OSRenderRegion.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Alex
>